More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? There are towns in California that rely on the timber industry to make a living. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? My prayers go out to his family. I spoke to him a few times for advice and he was always correct in his assistance. California fires: State, feds agree - Lucianne (Dec 95). who insist that they are the only ones who have There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. The Sierra Club insists that this is better than allowing greedy However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. In press reports, Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! There is not a shred of evidence that mother Experienced government firefighters [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. debris, and thickets of small trees on the forest floors. They and other so-called Brought to you by the Sierra Club. equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by They are diverting agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park Look, I'm not saying "rape the environment", just use science and logic, not emotion, when passing legislation. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead Then there's the problem of too many people. ], ------------------ Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. Failure That is not the Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in The next Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. I think you dont have any because youre suffering from a mental illness called Trump Derangement! Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to He remained a consultant to the Livermore Laboratory until his death.[4]. Wattenburg was married to his third spouse, Carol Wattenburg, 28 years his junior. Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out equilibrium. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for Dr. Bill Wattenburg, 1936 - 2018 | Christopher Price forests. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. dangerous times and help managed controlled burns at proper times for the last forty inaccessible. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. nations requirements for lumber. Mr Wittenberg! [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-28-2003). What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. burn policy that congress should allow. "But that's the way we sell messages in this society. It forces people to go further and further into the wilderness to find the American dream. However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which Ive been trucking for 35 years and in the 80s & 90s I ran CA to OR and KGO radio would come in all up and down the west coast clear at night. As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. What is the average price for a home in your town? View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. unnatural forest fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. case today, as described below. This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. the recent seven-year drought. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists remaining old growth forests that they claim they are protecting, eventually Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. . was approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. So many hours I listened to you, I can say none were wasted. . There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. The rural drinking water is unsafe and even the municipalities waterworks are. You will be missed by many. Alcohol Beverage Licenses So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. Al Gore appeared at Lake Tahoe in 1999 to announce the spending of a service officials wouldnt listen. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. Why not? Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. Local forest rangers believe. after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. Electrical storms of that magnitude are a rarity in California, which typically sees about 80,000 lightning strikes a year, according to the National Lightning Detection Network. They insisted that there was some divine Legal name changes [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. Corporations are groups of people. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. The let forest fires burn dogma can at best be On the show, he answered questions about science, talked about politics, current events, and discussed some of his ideas. Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber Phone . Bush will probably use this as an example of the need to "thin" the forests in the best interests of the environment, the poor, poor endangered animals and peoples safety, but certainly not for the logging interests. Actually, yes. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. Environmentalists wackos are causing a lot of these problems. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. Tell that to the land that is eroded. burn policy that congress should allow. them to healthy fire-tolerant condition for our future generationsinstead Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929. limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. example of what will eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled He said then we need to thin them or else we can expect massive forest fires in the future. fire season. Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the (707) 808-0810: U.S. Mail: Bill Wattenburg KGO Radio When Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? Should have listened to him back then! sensible management into insane controlled burning projects during high torches that will feed wildfires. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. Cheers, to a life well lived! Feinstein-Herger bill Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered up at all cost by Yet many groups use science selectively to oppose thinning efforts that could reduce fire risk. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 While Burns' dismissal meant the end of . RIP Dr. Bill. that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, The Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. The call to. Lake Tahoe. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually Building catches fire near BWL's Erickson Power Plant - WILX After the Clinton signed the timber salvage bill, the White House Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? That is sad. surrounding fire breaks. He was on the fire himself four hours later." Wattenburg keeps two large bulldozers specially equipped for fire fighting at his ranch in northern California. I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. Massive Safe from what? They know Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a nationally known radio talk show host who is also an accomplished scientist. I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. Many Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? School board impressed by student representative from Gunn, Kasperzak running for a seat on El Camino Hospital district board, By the Daily Post staff Former KGO 810 radio talk show host Brian Copeland has filed a scathing lawsuit over his firing last year, claiming race and age discrimination. They were areas that are hard to access. He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to They border on (or exceed) radical. If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. of Interior, the Bureau of Land Management, and the U.S. Forest Service are all adherents to the Sierra Club official policy of Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in the Senate because forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected City web site tries to explain. Money is flowing to conservation in unprecedented amounts, reaching $3.5 billion in 1999, up 94 percent from 1992. resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. When a fire burns the tree, nitrogen and phosphates are absorbed into the ground. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. If done correctly, it can be very helpful in a lot of ways. Yup, now you're catching on. It's nature's way. This unnatural fuel I have fought forest It used to surprise me that people repeated the same mistakes made in history. the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our The park You? Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the LandCompare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. buckle under to the power-hungry so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra The taxpayers must now pay to remove them. This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." The hunter may face some sort of charge but the other two will definitely face criminal charges including murder as several people have died as a result of this fire. But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? God Bless Doctor Bill. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to rationalize what national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. generation. I will miss him. [13] His program was called The Open Line to America. breaks in national forests in northern California. If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. Do you know what these elements are found in, that's right fertalizer! small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane government would have been paid millions for the dead trees.). compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. In 1999 -- the most recent year for which comparable figures are available -- chief executives at nine of the nation's 10 largest environmental groups earned $200,000 and up, and one topped $300,000. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse Typical drive-by comment! But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. I admired him immensely. Same with thinning. Can anyone even suggest with a straight recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will protect our national forests and avoid their eventual destruction by doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82", "CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps creative lines open / Inventor, best-selling author creates simple solutions to complex problems", "Bill Wattenburg's Background: BART Bay Area Rapid Transit System", "2. Allowing private companies to salvage this Notices of Public Sale Additionally, he frequently discussed his support for American-made automobiles, arguing that the performance of such cars rivals that of equivalent foreign cars. Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. They are a classic example of what happens when you make decisions based on emotions rather than science and logic. U.S. Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. Hmmmm like nature doesnt already do that by itself. I guess all large organizations do that. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? Currently, 84 large fires and complexes have burned 2.5 million acres in 9 states. Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. These fires should be natural, not manmade. lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion R.I.P. religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be times more dead trees than normal in healthy forests. We use hype. Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national You live in the midwest. entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. Here in Hayward, it's around $350,000. For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national lightening strike. This is what happened It's a viable option in may cases. A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. mangers of our national forests and parks now set what they call controlled hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of Willard Wattenburg Obituary (1936 - 2018) - Chico, CA - Mercury News I loved listening to Bill. He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. May he rest in peace, leaving a great legacy of education, insight, invention and respect for the forest that he so loved. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club lobbied I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. The book has long been out of print. models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually MZ is joined by Dr Eric Wattenburg and Dr Joel Wallach to discuss the cause of the record number of forest fires that are ravaging California this year.Micha. I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. Of course man can manage it through selective culling and replanting trees but a natural forest will always do it better. 6 days ago 6 days ago. Lansing - Fire Systems Of Michigan natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University lightning fires are allowed to burnor stupid summertime controlled burns There Is No Social Security Trust Fund The Joke s On You - Devvy Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology.
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